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目先の安さに釣られたインドネシア 中国請負の高速鉄道建設が工期遅延、予算超過 入札に敗れた日本に泣きつこうとしている

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1: アルヨ ★ 2020/06/01(月) 00:01:50.14 ID:e1eg7QPC9
2020年5月30日(土)20時46分

<目先の安さに釣られたインドネシア政府、袖にした日本に泣きつこうとしている>
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中国企業が主体となってインドネシア企業とのコンソーシアムを組んで建設中の首都ジャカルタと西ジャワ州の内陸部にある州都バンドン間約150キロを結ぶ高速鉄道計画。インドネシア政府は今後日本との間で合意しているジャワ島海岸沿いの路線でジャカルタ=スラバヤを結ぶ在来線の高速化計画と一体化する方針をジョコ・ウィドド大統領が示し、形のうえでは日本が中国と同じコンソーシアムを組んでインドネシアの鉄道計画に共同で当たるよう希望していることが明らかになった。

このジャカルタ=バンドン間の高速鉄道計画は2015年の入札段階で日本と中国が激しく争ったものだ。安全性を優先すると同時にインドネシア政府の債務保証を求めた日本に対し、中国側がインドネシアに債務保証も財政負担も求めず、短い工期と安い建設費用を前面に出して、土壇場で逆転、落札した経緯がある。

日本にしてみれば「いわくつき」の鉄道計画だけに「何をいまさら」という感じが拭いきれないが、同計画は着工も遅れ、その後も建設に要する土地収用、建設工事が予定通りに進まず、完工・運用開始時期が何度も先延ばしされている。

さらにそれに伴って、当初の55億ドルの資金のうち75%を中国側が出資するとはいえ、残る25%を負担するインドネシア国営企業連合の予算が膨れ上がったことなどから、インドネシア政府としては「日本との間で進めている在来線の高速化計画と一本化する」という折衷案のような形で両計画の推進を図り、早期の完成、運用開始に漕ぎつけたいとの強い意向があるものとみられている。

国家プロジェクト会議で大統領が指示

5月29日に開かれた国家戦略プロジェクトに関する閣僚会議のあとオンライン記者会見したアイルランガ・ハルタルト経済担当調整相は「ジャカルタ=バンドン高速鉄道建設のコンソーシアムにジャカルタ=スラバヤの高速化計画を進める日本を追加することを検討している。これはジョコ・ウィドド大統領からの要請でもある」として政府の方針変更を初めて明らかにしたと地元英字紙「ジャカルタ・ポスト」やネットニュース「ディテック・コム」などが29日一斉に伝えた。

アイルランガ調整相は日本に参加を求める理由として、中国主体の建設計画が当初の予定を大きく遅れた2021年の完工・運用開始を目指していたものの「今回の新型コロナウイルス感染拡大によりさらに遅れる可能性が濃厚になってきたこと、さらにそうした遅れに伴い当初予算が大幅に膨らんでいることなどがある」と述べたという。

次のページ日本参加でも工期短縮は無理

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https://www.newsweekjapan.jp/stories/world/2020/05/post-93550_1.php

12: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:06:56.69 ID:SFIWoVQ60
>>1
用日と親日は、別物

3: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:02:51.20 ID:v+yq1l2b0
役人の感情もよくないし
余程アレな政治家がいなければ動かないから安心しろ

44: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:15:09.06 ID:mdrDKcUO0
>>3

日本が造った地下鉄の支払いも渋ってるのがインドネシアで、受注した日本企業は赤字だとか・・・
日本企業側も契約無視ばっかのインドネシア事業を美味しいとも思わなくなっていると思う

4: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:03:11.65 ID:5zv8sy8Q0
最初からこうなる事が解ってただろw
タダより高いものは無いって言うけど、中国の場合安物より高いものはないだからな

6: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:04:36.54 ID:yKepLpPo0
この件に関しては日本は手を出すな
ちゃんと「教育」しないとまた甘える

8: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:05:23.12 ID:RL/dyW9r0
測量情報を横流ししたり酷い裏切り方をしたんだから、やるにしても相応の見返りが必要だよね。

9: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:06:06.13 ID:28oSyPU50
コロナで散々日本を叩いてたようにおもうけど

最後まで中華に面倒みてもらえば?

13: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:07:11.94 ID:q/t48b+bO
インドネシア独立には旧日本軍将士が多大な貢献をして、
独立宣言書ではスカルノから「秘められた謝辞」まで受けてるんだが…。

今は昔の物語、
地獄の沙汰もカネ次第、か。

16: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:07:40.68 ID:1mO8CYjo0
お断りするか恩を売って海上封鎖の連携を取るか

19: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:08:08.34 ID:7zNSOsDn0
関わらない方がいいよ
メリット無いし

24: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:10:25.81 ID:mpQZC4/00
いっつもやな
インドネシアは前科が多すぎる
もはや相手したらいけん

30: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:12:31.08 ID:JiKx21/30
これは日本は引き受けたら駄目よ
引き受けたところで心の底では感謝などされないから

49: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:17:00.77 ID:c/pCzQQw0
地下鉄払ったら考えるわ

50: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:17:20.32 ID:qZH4wja10
あのさあ
20年くらいこういうことを中国や韓国とやってんだからさあ
しかもいつも負債が出たっつってODAとかいって最終的にタダでやってもらおうとするし
日本政府は建築族のために血税売国するじゃん

いいかげんにしろよクズども
絶対にかかわるな

52: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:17:45.33 ID:nhNafRj90
インドネシアはレッドチームなんだろ?
日本に関わらないでほしい

54: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:17:52.62 ID:WBO2NyuV0
逆転でインドネシアに取られた時、5chでも、
どうせ中国じゃこの条件でできずに日本に泣きついてくるお
とかいう意見が多かったなw

57: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:18:49.50 ID:jL3G0lyw0
日本からの多額のODAには感謝の言葉もなくコロナウィルスを広めたのは日本人という宣伝工作をした反日土人とは石油もいらんし距離をおいたほうが良い

62: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:20:06.95 ID:v5hmrILw0
インドネシア 「日本人はちょろいから、利用するだけ利用し尽くしてやれ」

67: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:21:23.85 ID:NNn/GTnp0
こらまた懐かしい話だな
インドネシアが日本を選ばなかっただけでインドネシアを批判しまくってる人いて当時は軽く引いたわw

101: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:28:46.05 ID:mdrDKcUO0
>>67

は?情弱は黙ってろよ

日本人がインドネシア批判してたのは、3年もかけて日本が地質調査など散々やって工事計画書を作ったのに
それを丸ごと中国側に渡してそれを元に中国が工事するってことで中国に発注したからなのに

106: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:31:32.80 ID:Clx899XG0
>>101
まあ、これだよな

利権、スパイが当たりマウス

日本が甘いともいえるがな

世界、特に半端国は、仁義などない

118: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:33:57.31 ID:qZH4wja10
>>101
> 日本人がインドネシア批判してたのは、3年もかけて日本が地質調査など散々やって工事計画書を作ったのに
> それを丸ごと中国側に渡してそれを元に中国が工事するってことで中国に発注したからなのに

アイデア募集しておいて落選させてパクるタイプのシステムだな
絶対許しちゃいけないだけでなく、国として人として相手しちゃいけないドクズだろ
本来なら計画書の時点で非難物なのにそれすら血税だからいいや、中国様だからいいやじゃねーよ
本人のためにならないから毅然とした態度を示せよ
つーか反インドネシアになったわクソが

125: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/06/01(月) 00:35:58.92 ID:us6vFOV+0
おことわり

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